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More rumours:

Exchange coloccini-Zigic with Deportivo.

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Seems like wanna get rid of Zigic without giving him the time to prove. Wondering Emery wants him or not.
If barca seriously want Coloccini then we have no chance.



Oh I just read we offered Joaquin to atletico. Strange. But from the 3 (Silva Villa Joaquin) I would want him to go and we got an instant sub for him: Pablo.

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I used to watch Banega in Boca (I watch a lot of argentinian football) and he was very good. I think that he should stay and become a starter.

Villa HAS to stay. He is a world class player. I don't think that Zigic fits in Valencia and any money from him would be good.
How was Albiol this year ? Are we OK with Marchena-Alexis-Albiol ? I think we should get another defender. A more experienced one. Someone like the old good Ayala. (Not an Helguera of course).

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I used to watch Banega in Boca (I watch a lot of argentinian football) and he was very good. I think that he should stay and become a starter.

Villa HAS to stay. He is a world class player. I don't think that Zigic fits in Valencia and any money from him would be good.
How was Albiol this year ? Are we OK with Marchena-Alexis-Albiol ? I think we should get another defender. A more experienced one. Someone like the old good Ayala. (Not an Helguera of course).

Oh you ask the right questions Aimar-21.

"To add a defender or not add a defender? That is the question." It's difficult, mainly because it all depends on how you answer the following: is Marchena better served as a defensive midfielder or as a central defender? He basically made Albelda redundant as a Defensive Midfielder, which in a way was easy, and I like him in the position. He is the best DM Valencia has. But, Maduro wasn't terrible so Marchena can play as a CB if called for, so it really boils down to how Emery plans to utilize his players. Still, I think Maduro can fill in as a Central Defender if needed, and so can Moretti as well. I'm not sure if Lomban has a future with the club and I don't know if VCF-Mestalla has a CB that can step in now.... speaking of which, what the hell happened to Yago Fernandez? Honestly, I'd rather have Navarro back than Helguera.

As for Albiol, I think he played well this season, especially when you consider that he was partnered with Helguera for much of the time. He was a bit uneven at times, but I think on the whole he adjusted well in playing without Ayala. Alexis and Albiol have the potential to be an extremely good partnership - I mean they were excellent in the Copa Del Rey final, that is before Albiol was subbed off due to injury.

The biggest problem is finding reinforcements for the RB and LB positions. Reinforcing the CB position is probably third or fourth on the list of priorities. I'd probably put the priorities as so:

1. reinforcements for RB and LB position
2. a reinforcement for the forward position
3. a back-up 'keeper
4. a reinforcement for CB

I agree, Banega needs to stay, but he needs to get his shit together. I also agree that Zigic never made sense for Valencia to begin with - I would see if he could be moved plus cash to Stuttgart for Mario Gomez, though I doubt Stuttgart would want to part with Super Mario.

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Is Pablo surely coming back? There were articles recently where they stated that we don't wanna buy him back, but months ago wrote that we already bought him back. And now atletico got their eyes on him.


Maybe we should give Banega his drinks if he can't play without them...
And then he will become the new Drunken Master!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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For the RB it probably depends on whether Miguel gets sold, but I also think that an LB is needed for sure.

What about the new manager? Almeria had a fantastic season, but what's your opinion ? I like the fact that he is Basque, in many cases this means he is disciplined and the Valencia squad surely needs it. I think there are many good players in the team and someone needs to get the best out of them.

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What do I like about Emery?

-I like that he is flexible and not married to a certain formation like Quique (a 4-4-2 with two defensive minded central midfielders) and Koeman (a 4-3-3) were.

-I like that he is willing to work with what he has and not with what he wants.
Sure every coach has a preference for certain squad players based on performance and ability, but both Quique and Koeman were perhaps a bit too particular in their choices on what is necessary for Valencia to function. We essentially have Quique to thank for Helguera. Emery is willing to work with what he has, which is huge plus. The question then becomes this: when do you have enough confidence in Emery to have a strong say in the transfer plan? Right now Sanchez and Emery must work together to figure who needs to come in and which loan players should return, but there has to come a time, most likely next season during the summer, when Emery will want certain players to complete his squad. Will Valencia then have the confidence to trust his judgment?

-Related to the above, I like that he doesn't see gaps in squad talent as a limitation but a condition that he has to work with.

-I like that he tries to find different ways to motivate players. Not every player finds motivation in the same way.

-I like that he is a young coach: Valencia's core (I would say that it is Mata, Silva, Banega, Albiol, Alexis, and Marchena) that is if it stays that way, is pretty young and I think they would respond best to a younger coach.

-Related to the team's youth, one of Emery's biggest tasks is to instill a sense of confidence in the squad, something that both he and Laudrup did really well, at least for Getafe when they were still fighting for the Copa and the UEFA, after they were eliminated the wheels kind of fell off the bus. Both Getafe and Almeria this past season played with a 'never say die' attitude that kept them in some matches that they had no business competing in. One of Valencia's problems this past season was that if the opposition scored a goal and obtained the lead, Valencia hardly ever fought back to try and win or draw. It was pretty sad really, that a streak of the inevitability of failure was so strong this season. If Emery can get Valencia to never quit, they will have a good season if much of the team stays the same and vital areas that need reinforcement are reinforced.

-I like that he seems realistic and not arrogant like Koeman or stubborn like Quique.

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I thought Pablo was coming back, that it was announced in January, which was months ago. I was under the impression it was a given.

Yeah, Borracho Banega. Maybe Valencia can petition the LFP to make the following a legal item for him to wear during play:
http://www.after5catalog.com/images/pro ... 6601p1.jpg

Oh and if I could advertise just a little, if you want to understand the underhandedness/shady aspects of the 'transfer rumor' process, please read the following entry of Mr. Drakul's blog:

http://de-nit.blogspot.com/2008/05/hay- ... s-por.html

Even with a translator, you get a sense of what actually goes on when names are thrown around in the press like some kind of drunken tennis match. Drakul did leave out the use of prostitutes and cocaine, but that is only because he has some readers who are under 18 and being the nice guy that he is, he doesn't want to corrupt them.

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Hey Drakul,didn't know u had a blog too.How about writing in English?

I am really excited about Emery.Lets hope him & Sanchez can work nicely & do the best for the team.


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It is the silly season after all, so a few rumors are..... (apologies if some have been posted already)

-Valencia is interested in Zabaleta of Espanyol.
-may have interest in Palop (why?)
-have first option on Pedro Oldoni thanks to Ruiz's, ahem, 'work' (I know, who exactly is Pedro Oldoni)
-also may be interest in the Swede Elmander who is currently at Toulouse

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Hey Drakul,didn't know u had a blog too.How about writing in English?

I am really excited about Emery.Lets hope him & Sanchez can work nicely & do the best for the team.


I'm afraid my English is not good enough to write articles in English... sorry I demand much about my writing and I really don't consider myself prepared for that.

I think that What Valencia wants is this:

1.- Selling Hildebrand for 10-12 millions.
2,. Buying Palop for 3
3.- Buying a young goalkeeper as Asenjo (who is a Valencia supporter in addition) or Amelia for 3-6 millions.

This way Valencia would change one good goalkeeper for another good one and a promising youngster

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I don't want Palop back. But if we think about the situation, if we keep Timo as 1st keeper, no other young keeper wants to come to us. So there is sense in what Drakul wrote.

On the other hand I don't understand why we haven't moved for a LB or a RB already, cause Caneira is on his way out, maybe Miguel too. I know we asked about Zabaleta who would be a good signing, but no one for the LB position. Instead we go after strikers, who aren't good enough to substitue Villa. Altough maybe all these rumours are false, who knows.

Barca is after Silva, I hope we won't sell him under 30m. And if we do we should try to sign VDV. But if we sell Silva, are Mata and Vicente enough for the left? The reason of this question is Vicente's injuries. Or bring back Gavilan/Regueiro? BTW I would like to see Mata as a 2nd striker, which is his natural position. Maybe he is much better there.

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Gavilan might adapt very good with Emery. He kicks the ball very good and this is very important for the new coach.

Unai wants to talk seriously to del horno before singing a new one for his position. I like that, Del horno is good and Unai can give him the chance... maybe del horno's last chance to be a footballer.

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I don't know...selling Timo to someone like Bayern would be a way to make money and it would be easier to get a good young goaltender to sign for Valencia as rubenche wrote, but it would be a sad way to repay Timo for having to put up with Cañizares's crap and having Helguera in front of him this season. I like Timo, but if he can be sold in a 'two-for-the price of one exchange', I'm for it. Asenjo would be nice, or maybe even someone like Kasper Schmeichel would be a good choice, but if Valencia will go young, then at least go domestic. Hugo Lloris would have been nice, but I think he's signing for Lyon. Curci's not a bad 'keeper either. If he could be had for cheap I would consider Jeremie Janot of St. Etienne, who was last year's 'keeper of the year in France, but he is of the 'short and athletic' school of keepers. Plus there would be the question of adaptation, which is a big question because Valencia can't afford to take too many stupid risks with players. So for a veteran, yeah, Palop maybe makes the most sense for the short term.

I wouldn't mind if Del Horno returns, but only if Emery can get him to play like he did at Athletic before he left for Chelsea. Where did it all go wrong with Asier? Seems that his treatment by Chelsea and Quique kind of ruined him or at least put him on the road to ruin.

For the left there is also Jordi Alba from VCF Mestalla, but I don't know if he would be a serious option for next season.

So many questions that need to be answered for this transfer season...

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Is he interested in DH? Strange. Even bilbao wants to get rid of him... But the cheapest option really.

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Lot of rumours circling around our team. We declared Silva intransferable(I'd like to hear this about Villa), then one paper says he'd like to stay another he'd like to go. At least we won't sell him for cheap.
Super comes with rumours of Guiza wants to come to us, another paper says he wants to go to barca. Another one is he only comes if Villa leaves, then he shouldn't come at all, he isn't in the same class with Villa.

Emery wants Miguel to stay, which is good imo, if he can recover his form, he is one of the best attacking rbs of the world.

Seems like we almost sold Sunny to racing, I hope they include a buyback-clause, cause this guy can be a very good player, he only needs playing time. Maybe we really want Zapater?

Plus we interested in peru goalkeeper Butron, who is 31. Will he accept the bench behind Hildebrand, I doubt this would be his dream. I hope Palop doesn't wanna come back. I don't see a good solution to the keeper case. If we keep Timo, then which keeper wanna sit behind him on the bench? A younger one? Timo isn't old anyway.

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Pablo is officially back I believe, well at least according to superdeporte. 6 year contract and a 55 million buy out clause, of which I hope Pablo becomes a player someone would want to pay 55 million euros for.

http://www.superdeporte.es/secciones/no ... temporadas

Also, Miguel allegedly wants out. Sell him to Burger King so he can be a spokesperson for a quadruple cheeseburger or something to that effect.

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It's everything really stopped. There are several rumours about Villa and silva but the certain thing is that there are not even one offer.

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I read today that Emery wants Albelda and Zigic out. I feel sorry for Zigic cause he could be good for us and hardly got chances, but if he doesn't fit into the trainer's plans then there's no reason to stay. On the other hand I want Albelda to leave, but it's strange that nobody wanna pay for him, even a few millions... I hope we can sell him in finally.

Plus we only ask 8m for Miguel? That's really stupid. We still not a good seller club.

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Media said we are asking 12 for Miguel, and I will consider Sanchez a good "cheater" if he gets that price. Miguel's value is not that money. They say Zabaleta would be the option to substitute him

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