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Having retired as a player after his stint with Feyenoord, Koeman became member of the coaching staff of Guus Hiddink during the World Cup 1998 along with Johan Neeskens and Frank Rijkaard. After the tournament Koeman was appointed the assistant coach of FC Barcelona. In 2000, he was handed his first managerial job as the head coach of Vitesse Arnhem where he led the team to a UEFA Cup spot on a relatively limited budget.

Koeman was appointed the manager of Ajax Amsterdam in 2001. Ajax' fortunes suffered a steady decline after Koeman got off to a successful start at the ArenA, winning a domestic double in 2001-02. Despite regaining the title in 2003-04, Ajax had fallen behind rivals PSV Eindhoven as the Netherlands' top team, and Koeman resigned after the Amsterdam side were knocked out of the UEFA Cup by AJ Auxerre.

Koeman bounced back quickly from a disappointing end to his reign at AFC Ajax in February 2005, taking up the vacant position at Portuguese champions SL Benfica following the departure of legendary Italian Giovanni Trapattoni. In Benfica, against whom he won the 1988 European Cup final as a player with PSV Eindhoven, Koeman only won the Portuguese Supercup: the team finished the Portuguese League in third place (behind rivals F.C. Porto and Sporting) and was knocked out of the Portuguese Cup in the quarter-finals (after losing to Vitória de Guimarães). This, along with an offer from PSV Eindhoven, sufficed for the manager to leave one year before the end of his contract, even though Benfica reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League before losing to FC Barcelona, who ended up winning the trophy.

In the 2006/2007 season, Koeman serves as head coach of PSV Eindhoven, as successor of Guus Hiddink. PSV dominated the first season half, putting competitors as AZ and Ajax at a reasonable distance and PSV was almost destined to become champions again. However, PSV suffered in the second half of the season, also because of injuries of players Jefferson Farfán, Alex and Ibrahim Afellay, obtaining only 19 out 39 possible points.[1]. AZ and Ajax regained their momentum, making for a close finish, with all three teams tied at 72 points before the last competition day.[2] AZ played struggling Excelsior in their final match, but did not manage to win. Ajax played at Willem II, but did not score enough goals; it was PSV eventually who triumphed against all odds, winning at home 5-1 against Vitesse Arnhem, and thereby becoming Eredivisie champions on goal difference.

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Wow, that was quick. Let's hope Oscar Fernandez can obtain a win in perhaps his only game as coach, though maybe he'll coach Saturday as well.

I don't know much about him, but I welcome the change. Of course he won't have Valencia play like '74 Holland - if that's what people expect, Valencia doesn't have the talent for it (who would be Neeskins?) - but I do hope that he'll be able to work with an entire squad, can integrate younger players, and most importantly, be flexible. Bringing Afellay along with him won't hurt....but with both Vicente and him being a bit fragile Valencia would also have to invest in a swimming pool's worth of water from Lourdes. Actually, part of evaluating Koeman's value will be how he gets along with MAR and the transfer window this summer, because I think if Valencia wants to compete in both Europe and Spain, some additions and subtractions will need to be made. Yes, that means you Mr. Arizmendi.


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Goal.com Profile: Ronald Koeman With Ronald Koeman set to take the vacant manager's hotseat at Valencia, Goal.com looks back on a career that, both as player and manager, has seen the former defender make a name for himself across Europe...
Goal.com Profile: Ronald Koeman

Home-Grown Beginnings?

Ronald Koeman is inextricably linked with Dutch football, but even within that small country - and outside it, too - he's been on the move plenty of times.

A Zaandam boy, Koeman was seen as a precocious playing talent as a youngster, but it wasn't with local club Ajax that he made his professional breakthrough. Instead, he took the long journey to Groningen to turn out for the Pride of the North.

He began to turn out for the green-and-whites at the age of 17 and, during his three year spell at the Oosterpark, he helped them on to great success; while they remain trophyless, they did qualify for Europe in the season of his departure.

And when he did leave in 1983, it was back to Amsterdam that he went, joining up with Ajax for another three year spell. Here, he was to lift his first silverware, winning the Eredivisie title with the capital club in 1985.

By this time, the centre-back was beginning to make a real name for himself. Boyish in looks he may have been, but there was nothing weak or juvenile about his defensive stance. As such, he was on the move yet again, joining up with PSV Eindhoven, again for three years.

With PSV, he was to enjoy some of the happiest times of his career. At club level, he won the European Cup, edging out Benfica on penalties, and for the Oranje he lifted the European Championship trophy in 1988.

As a Dutch player, then, he'd already seen and done pretty much everything.

Nou Camp Adventure

Consequently, a move abroad seemed the next natural step, and they don't come much bigger than FC Barcelona.

The Catalan giants snapped him up in 1989, Ronald becoming a first team stalwart in short order. He spent six seasons at the Nou Camp, the finest of which was 1991-92. His rocket of a free kick gave Barcelona their first and so far only European Cup win.

His set-piece goal was to be the only strike of the game as the blaugrana sank Sampdoria at Wembley. It was a joyous moment for Barca fans, and for Koeman, too: the difference was, he'd seen it all before.

Age and new signings began to render Koeman less than vital to the Catalan club so, in 1995, he departed for Feyenoord, gone from the Nou Camp but certainly not forgotten. In Rotterdam, he ended his career two seasons later, bringing to an end a 17 year campaign of silverware and solidity.

To The Dugout

Still, he wasn't out of the game for long. Having represented the Oranje 78 times as a player, he seemed a natural choice as assistant manager to Guus Hiddink, with whom he traveled with the Dutch contingent for the World Cup of 1998.

That was not to prove his finest hour but, regardless, his stock as a technical figure was high enough for him to rejoin Barcelona, this time as a coach. Here he remained until his first managerial appointment at Vitesse in Arnhem.

It wasn't quite the superstar outfit he'd been used to since leaving Groningen but, regardless, he settled in nicely, helping the provincial side to a European place before Ajax came calling.

It was a return to the capital for Koeman, and one that resulted in mixed success. True, he won two titles, but by the end of his tenure, Ajax were beginning to struggle both domestically an on the continent. For arguably the first time in his career, Koeman was experiencing failure.

Life After Ajax

Thankfully, it wasn't to last long. Koeman quickly took over at Benfica, Italian legend Giovanni Trapattoni having departed just prior, and took the Lisbon giants to the last eight of the Champions League. Once again, though, domestic success was to elude him: for that, he'd have to return to the Netherlands.

And so Koeman arrived at PSV Eindhoven, with whom he'd experienced some of his most glorious highs as a player.

Here, he began to modify his tactics to suit the rigours of the continental game, just as he'd done with Benfica. While as a Dutchman he was a proponent of Total Football and attacking nous, he knew that that wouldn't cut it against the best of the best.

"We try to play more offensively in Holland," he once said. "But to have success, results, in Europe we cannot play the way we do in Holland. Other teams are stronger. We have to be more realistic."

It paid off to some extent. His side edged past Arsenal 2-1 on aggregate in the first knockout stage, but then fell sharply to Liverpool in the next round, losing out 4-0 over two legs.

Back home, an injury-riven PSV struggled to last the distance in the league, only just securing the title by a single goal on the last day of the campaign, beating none other than former club Vitesse 5-1 to pip Ajax and AZ to the trophy.

It was close-fought, but arguably a deserved title win for Koeman. However, he wasn't to stay and finish the job next year.

Mestalla Arrivals

For within three months of the new season, he was on his way once more, taking up the reins at the Mestalla following Quique Sanchez's sacking by the Valencia hierarchy.

It will be his first return to Spain in seven years, but he won't enter La Liga as a complete stranger. With his Barcelona experience, he knows the competition well.

Whether he can delight a Valencia crowd that hates near-misses and close-fought wins, though, is another matter entirely. Arguably not since Ajax has he faced so much pressure. Can the rough and ready defender now weather the storms to come as a manager?

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also, it appears that Koeman is taking along his long time assistant Tonny Bruins Slot with him. Who knows how good is Spanish is.


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Koeman is better option than QSF, that's for sure. I don't love him, but I don't hate him, he has been in Ajax for few years and he lead them very good, I think they won Dutch championship(not sure), in his time they've been every year in CL. After his resign or sacked(whatever :)) Ajax didn't find adequate replace, the top was this year when they droped out of Uefa cup against Dinamo Zagreb 8) .
About his time in Benfica I don't remember very well, I remember that they were in top 3, and then he gone.
(Till) now in PSV they were good, playing an good, attractive football.
Not one of the top coaches, but good, I think that with this team we can conquer for title, but the favorites are Real and Barcelona.

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(Reuters) Wednesday 31 October 2007


Ronald Koeman has agreed to take over as the coach of Valencia after quitting PSV Eindhoven, he said on Wednesday.


"I have not signed so far but I have reached an agreement with Valencia for a 2-1/2 year contract," Koeman told a news conference.

The Primera Liga club had been looking for a new manager after sacking Quique Sanchez Flores following last weekend's 3-0 defeat at Sevilla.

PSV managing director Jan Reker told Wednesday's news conference the Dutch club had accepted Koeman's resignation.

"Koeman told me this summer it was his dream to work with one of the top teams in Spain so when Valencia came it was clear for us that it would be difficult to keep him," said Reker. "The management of PSV spoke with delegates of Valencia this morning and in 4-1/2 hours we reached an agreement about financial compensation."

Koeman, 44, clashed with PSV chairman Frits Schuitema last season when the team appeared to have squandered their title chances but they ended up snatching the Dutch championship on goal difference in a dramatic finale.

"This summer I spoke with the chairman of Valencia about the future because it would be an ideal job for me after this season when my contract expires," said Koeman. "On Sunday morning I was called again after Valencia sacked their coach and within 15 hours we reached an agreement."

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Koeman will be joined by his assistant Tonny Bruins Slot, who previously worked under Johan Cruyff at Barcelona.

Koeman expects to take charge of Valencia for the first time when they host Rosenborg in a UEFA Champions League match on Tuesday. They are third in Group B, four points behind leaders Chelsea.

Valencia, who are fourth in the Primera Liga, face leaders Real Madrid at the Mestalla later on Wednesday.

Sanchez Flores was the third coach to have been sacked by Valencia in three years with predecessors Antonio Lopez and Claudio Ranieri also failing to live up to expectations following the success under previous boss Rafa Benitez.

Koeman was a member of the Barcelona team that won the 1992 European Cup and four consecutive Primera Liga titles in the early 1990s and he had a spell as assistant at the Catalan club when he began his coaching career.

He returned to the Netherlands to take the job of head coach at Vitesse Arnhem in 2000 and then took charge of former team Ajax the following year, leading the Amsterdam side to the league and Cup double in 2002 and another league title in 2004.

He stepped down in 2005 following a UEFA Cup defeat to Auxerre and then moved to Portuguese champions Benfica, but resigned less than 12 months later after they finished third in the league and signed a two-year deal with PSV.

PSV currently lead the Dutch first division after nine games, two points clear of rivals Ajax and Feyenoord.


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I don't have a good feeling for this. Dutch managers are hugely overrated (like the Barca manager for example) and Koeman hasn't really done anything good. He failed in Benfica, he almost lost the championship last year with PSV although they were way ahead and his only good period was back at Ajax.
I don't know, I don't think he is suitable for the team.
However I wish him all the luck in the world.

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In the Dutch media they asked Koeman if he would welcome the addition of Van der Vaart to Valencia. While they were both at Ajax Koeman made him captain and it didn't really work out for the best and they had a bit of a falling out. Anyway, Koeman said that he would be more than happy to have Van der Vaart at Valencia, and that what happened at Ajax is in the past.

Cruyff did well while managing Barça. Hiddink is arguably one of the best managers anywhere right now. I think it's unfair to make a stereotype about all Dutch managers being a certain way. My only expectation for Koeman this season is to obtain fourth in the league and possibly get out of the group stage of this season's Champions League. The team as it is constructed right now is a bit of a mess, so I'd be amazed if Valencia were to challenge for any titles this season.

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This may sound like a stretch, but I think a player who potentially may stand to benefit the most from Koeman's arrival may be Albiol. Koeman was a sweeper, a quintessentially German position since Beckenbauer, and in order to be one you have to be the smartest player on the pitch. In short, you have to be able to do everything well. It's no surprise that some of the best Sweepers have started out as midfielders: Beckenbauer was first a midfielder and so was Matthias Sammer. Not sure if Koeman was a similar convert. Albiol was converted from midfieder to defender. Can he make the same transition?

In some ways Albiol already acts like a quasi-sweeper. He plays like a man marker so he can be all over the place, plus he's not too bad on bringing the ball upfield, when the situation allows. I'm not sure if he has the free kick ability to make goalkeepers quake, but he does have some of the characteristics needed to be a successful sweeper. Of course, a good sweeper needs to be coupled with a good positional Central defender in order to thrive, but with Alexis still young and now injured, and Helguera not being the answer, I'm not sure that a current 'rock' in central defence is there for Albiol to cultivate some sweeper like abilities.

I'd love for Valencia to play with a Sweeper once Koeman sorts things out. It's a hard position to play, but it does give that little bit extra on moving the ball up field.

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It is. I don't know why, but it is. At the moment t's continue working on the forum anyway.

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Former co-player at BFC José Mari Bakero has been named Assistant Coach to help Tintin. Not sure if Albelda approves, since I think he doesn't look favourably upon the Basques. But then again, I think Albelda is a closet idiot and that once his legs give way and he loses a step in speed, he will be rendered absolutely, unquestionably, and totally useless.

Should help bring Fernandes along. I don't know if he can resurrect the almost dead Baraja.

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Former co-player at BFC José Mari Bakero has been named Assistant Coach to help Tintin. Not sure if Albelda approves, since I think he doesn't look favourably upon the Basques. But then again, I think Albelda is a closet idiot and that once his legs give way and he loses a step in speed, he will be rendered absolutely, unquestionably, and totally useless.

Should help bring Fernandes along. I don't know if he can resurrect the almost dead Baraja.

Well Albelda isn't too quick atm and forget about the rendered, absolutely, unquestionably totally useless describes Albelda very well for the last 2 - 4 seasons. I hate seeing him, every time he starts I feel pissed off because i know he's going to contribute nothing.

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His football skills have been getting worse at the time his hair colour has been dyer.

I meant, he is not a star as he considers himself. He is the dirty work boy, and for doing that very well you have to be modest. He lost that passion that made him be one of the best ones in his position... that boy that thought that if the other are richer, we were braver, if the other are better we kicked them, but we had to win.

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I think that soon we will have the old great Albelda. [-o<

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I think that soon we will have the old great Albelda. [-o<


Ask and you shall receive! Albelda played quite well on saturday. Surprisingly, maybe even shockingly if you are a bit of an Albelda cynic.

I think one of the nice things about getting a non-Spaniard is that it makes it slightly easier to not compare Koeman to Benitez. I know it may seem trivial, but the fact that he's a foreigner in addition to a very successful former player makes it easier to step outside the Benitez shadow.

Reading that he was at the VCF Mestalla match yesterday also makes feel even better about the decision to hire him. Koeman surely recognizes that in order for Valencia to succeed that the youth squad and b team have to not necessarily win, but produce good players. I think Ajax has a saying that the non-first teams may win, but the first team must win. Player development doesn't necessarily mean winning, though it helps. From what I've read, there are some promising youngsters at VCF Mestalla such as Olcina, Pierrick, and Montorro. As for defenders, I'm not sure, though Lomban seems to pop up and I don't know if Yago is still in Valencia's plans.

Anyway, it's nice that Koeman wants to get involved with all levels of Valencia. Speaking of which, funny story, I read that the last time there was an international break in October Quique had a training session with the remaining players not called up and they played against VCF Mestalla. Arizmendi scored....but it was an own goal. Quique called off the match after VCF Mestalla went up 2-0.

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