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 Asunto: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
NotaPublicado: Mar 18 Dic, 16:15 
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Koeman wants to renew the team and his revolutions started today. He told to Cañizares and Albelda that he doesn't want them in the team and they must find another team to play. It's a big surprise. Cañizares got good matches against Chelsea and Barcelona and that's so sad for both players, but specially for Cañizares. Today is his birthday.

I understand the decission about Albelda. Yeah, it's the captain, a great midfielder and a Valencia fan from being a child, but currently I don't feel the same ambition in him like past seasons.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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It's sad really but I'm glad that Koeman did it.
Somebody had to do it sooner or later, to kill the darlings.

Cañizares will be in my heart forever though, such a goalkeeper is a rarity to see this days, a winner, a totally flipped out goalkeeper and most of it all, probably the most charismatic of them all! :!:

I always had my little problems with Albelda, more with his attitude than his efforts on the pitch.


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Media are rally upset with koeman. This is enough to consider this decision as a right decision. I don't know what happened inside the doors of the club, but I don't believe this is a Koeman's whim (as media in here want to convince us).

From 2 years ago, none of them was playing well, their attitude wasn't the right one and they were too convinced of being the Very Important People of the club.

It's a shame that this two heroes have to leave like this, but the situation is very bad. We won too little matches this year and we didn't even deserve to win them.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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The problem isn't that their leaving, everybody must leave but it's how their leaving.
They're just killed in the dark and that's wrong...
I admit it, I became a little too sensitive after watching the tears of Albelda, it was emotions from the heart.
Why haven't they got an explination, they can't just have "they're old" as an excuse for this.


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I used to be a supporter of this decision, no matter Soler or Koeman made it, but I felt really so sad when I saw Albelda's tearing face.

Just the moment when I heard that Manuel, Zijic and most of all, Vicent should be aslo added into the black list, I'm asking myself is this the right way and the right person? Every year what Soler doing is just clearing his staff like a kid, see what we lost this year and how much we spent on? We abandon the good players we kept or just bought with high prices, then follow up those expensive ones from those robber Franch clubs and finally got another mid-class player that the coach doesn't like.

Anyway, if you want to clear out Manuel and zijic, I think Ruiz can leave, too, Carboni come back please.

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Wow, it's a shame that their careers at Valencia had to be put into question in such a dramatic fashion. I've considered Albelda to be dead weight for some time, but I never thought that he should be forced to leave without some semblance of dignity. Same for Canizares, though he is a Valencia legend and should have been treated a bit better. Couldn't Canete have swallowed a little pride and been a bit of a better team player?

This is turning out to be a pretty screwed up season. Well, the changes had to come, it's just too bad that they are coming too late.

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I don't know if you are able to read my blog because it's in Spanish. Time is telling that Carboni was right once again. He didn't want to renew their 3 contracts, President did for himself and now he had to fire them. It's a shame that Carboni wasn't able to manage the team... Can you imagine a new season without Quique, with a new coach from preseason, without these three players (or at least with these 3 players knowing that they had just one year more in their contracts), without helguera, with an expensive central defender, with Del Horno to let Moretti rest, with snejder, with Treeguet...

We have a really bad President. I think he is a good man doing a job he can't do. He will be out of Mestalla sooner or later with all his money but this is scary: The opposite group is made with well known people as the former President Pedro Cortes.

We'd have a favourite for President in Valencia.His name is Juan Roig, he is brother with a former President call Paco Roig (with no good memories for the club). Juan Roig has the money and the capacity to get the club; now he is the President of Pamesa Valencia basketball club and his company (Supermarkets Mercadona) it's the first one in his field in Spain.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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I think Pedro Cortes was the best president of Valencia CF in the past 20 years. He kept selling the stars for money, meanwhile the club got a steady place in the LIGA and CL. He gave Cuper the most supports even in the hardest times. Unfortunately, Cortes isn't a major stockholder of Valencia CF. After the defeat in San Siro of 2001 and the departure of Mendieta, he was 'kicked' out from the club.

I don't think Juan Roig is a good leader. (I'm a basketball fan and very interested in European basketball. I don 't like the style of NBA. But NBA games are full of Chinese TVs, papers and magzines...) In my opinion, ACB is the No.1 league of Euro basketball leagues. As is known to all, Tau, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Unicaja, Juventut were the best 5 of the league. Under Juan Roig's leadership, Pamesa isn't a tranditional strong team and only can take part in ULEB Not EUROLIGA. His brother Paco Roig was always making troubles with Cortes and Jaime Orti from 1997 to 2004. I hate the everyone named 'Roig'!

The past news shows Soler has the 70% stocks of the club, how can he find his boot away?

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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It's sad it has come to this, but they will be remembered as legends...

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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I don't know about Albelda, but Santi is a true legend for Valencia. He gave everything he could and he should have won more.

About Koeman I must say, that Quique was supposed to be the problem. He left and now with Koeman the team is even worse. Now some old players take the blame while Koeman has not produced anything in his stay as manager of the team.
Of course he is not the major problem in Valencia, but I still believe that he is not good for this team.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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I don't agree. Valencia has been as bad with Quique as with Koeman. The good news are that now the team is improving and the young players got in the fist plane.

We've got some good results with Quique, but after watching those matches, you can conclude that they were very lucky and against the worst teams in primera.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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I agree about some lucky results with Quique, but I dont think the team has improved.

Is there any rumor regarding the future of Canizares-Albelda and Angulo ?
Will they be sold , loaned ?

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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I agree about some lucky results with Quique, but I dont think the team has improved.

Is there any rumor regarding the future of Canizares-Albelda and Angulo ?
Will they be sold , loaned ?



There is a big Storm in Valencia about Albelda's matter. He demanded the club in courts because his lawyers consider he has been fired. They asked Valencia 60 million euros (the price of shis contract release clause). I consider that his lawyers are just pushing Valencia to get better conditions to finish his contract. From the beginning they were asking the total price of the money he has signed and the chance to go for free to any club he wants.

So there it is, the big idol, the one that pretended to be the symbol of the club demanding his loved team.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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Well, well, Captain amazing shows his mercenary colours.

You know, I thought that this season would go entirely strange once I read that Soler seemed to muddy things up with his comments that 'well they're not really fired' etc. etc.

I'm left wondering though, is the post-UEFA cup season stranger than this one or is this one more in tune with being down-right bizarre?

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I'm really disappointed in Albelda...

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That's a shame.
I know that he is frustrated because of what happened but he should think of the history that he has with the team.
What about Angulo ?

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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Angulo and Cañizares are being very cleverer. They are just waiting in the shadows to see what's happening with Albelda.

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 Asunto: Re: Koeman asks Cañizares and Albelda to leave Valencia
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Okay, so in addition to Canizares, Albelda and Angulo being told to politely fuck off and Fernandes being shipped off to Everton, is Koeman being either too much of a fascist or do these moves make complete sense?

I'm in agreement with Angulo, Albelda, and Canizares told to leave if they were no longer being good teammates, but I thought there was room for Fernandes at Valencia. Sure, he's not a superb passer, but he could hold on to the ball as if it was glued to the tongue of his shoe. Did Koeman really have difficulty with Fernandes or was it just the case that Banega is the better option? When you look at the coaching timeline, Koeman was already at PSV in 2006-2007 when Fernandes was shipped off first to Portsmouth and then to Everton, so to say that Koeman was responsible for him leaving Benfica probably isn't accurate.

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Any news on what's going on with the three Amigos?

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Valencia and Albelda will meet in courts next Friday. Albelda demanded for mobbing the club because he's considering that Valencia doesn't allow him to work as the other employees.

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Mobbing is intentional verbal or non-verbal conduct by one or more individuals against another individual over a period of time, that continuously and systematically:

* Intimidates, shows hostility, threatens, offends, humiliates, or insults any co-worker; or Interferes with a co-worker's performance; or Has an adverse impact on a co-worker's mental or physical well-being; or
* Otherwise adversely affects a co-worker.
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I think Albelda doesn't have any reason for this. Valencia is allowing him to train with his partners and it's paying his salary, but Albelda's lawyer seems very convinced of winning in courts. He doesn't have any right as a footballer to play matches, just to train and get paid.

He asked valencia for a pre-trial agreement to be paid 7 million euros and be free to go to other club.

  You are not suffering any mobbing, Idiot!  

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