Here's to a new season!

A chance to extract some measure of revenge after Villareal humiliated Valencia at the Mestalla towards the end of the season. I can't find any kind of preview, so if anyone can find one, please post it.

Valencia - Villarreal

A rip-roaring game takes place at the Mestalla, where Valencia host Villarreal for a game that produces drama and sendings off almost every single time. Los Che have kept a low profile over the summer and gone about their preparations with minimum fuss. However, with a squad that lacks neither in strength not depth, there is a certain aura of invincibility about them.

Ever since Amedeo Carboni was shown the door and the board's total faith posed in the much underrated Quique Sanchez Flores, there is only one direction in which the Mestalla club have gone in terms of morale. With 'sizzlers' such as David Silva, David Villa, Vicente and Joaquin, a spine comprising the likes of Albelda, Baraja and Edu, and yet another accomplished back line, there are few flaws one can pick in this team. And then they have the likes of Morientes, Zigic and Arizmendi.

They kick-off against the Yellow Submarines, who finally found their way around Juan Roman Riquelme late into last season, but will still have to strike some serious consistency for a repeat of their top six finish.

The likes of Marcos and Matias Fernandez have come on in leaps and bounds, and will have to shoulder a bulk of the responsibility, with experienced campaigners such as Nihat, Senna, Pires and Cani having to guide them through. Rio Mavuba and Joan Capdevila have improved the quality of the side further, and the promise is most certainly there again.

On the evening, you fancy Valencia to do enough, but it so was the case last season when Los Che crashed to a 3-1 defeat against their struggling local rivals.

Villarreal played very well in the pre-season and Valencia didn't. If we add that Six Valencia players played for Spain las Wednesday in a very bad pitch in Greece (Silva was magic again), it makes a really difficult match for us. I really liked the new position for Pires, He's playing in the center of the pitch where he is more important for the team than in the wing and he is making less efforts witch is good for his age. Valencia players are better, Villarreal squad is better playing together.

i'm disappointed! 0:3 defeat at home... very poor!

Same as last year. It looks like some players are in the fist eleven because of the coach's whim (Yes I am talking about Angulo), the team is too defensive, they don't move the ball, we don't get in the other area...

I can't understand Quique. Didn't he say he wanted to rotate the players this year? Why does he use Joaquin substitute as the striker of the team?

Didn't he notice yet that the team is better with silva in attack? The explanation is easy, Albelda is not in a good form, well I'm being too good, he is in a terrible form; Baraja is alone to organize the football ( and not in a good form either) and the other team pressure him. Who is asking for the ball? Angulo?

Quique continues with his whims, Why is angulo in attack if we have Morientes in the bench? Why is not Mata even in the bench? Is Angulo better than anyone of them? Is Angulo better than anyone?

Another pessimistic thought is coming about the line up. Why is this team unable to create opportunities because there is just one mistake in the first team? Aren't all of them primera división's players? Where is the tactic of this team?


Carboni, come back and take this incompetent out, pls!!!!!

Very disappointing performance indeed.

I don't think Quique is good enough for us. We need a new manager.

I agree with you.. The match was really bad, the performance was so disappointing. I'm at a loss for words. The red cards for Villa and Joaquin were so needless and silly...I think next week it won't be better. I am really frustrated.

I have no words too.Im very sad .And the next miatch we are without Villa and Joaquin and it will be so difficult,but the new signing Fernandes and our Vicente will be in the squad. Hold your heads up high Nothing is unchangable

Didn't see the match, but the words about Quique being Quique again aren't too comforting. Just the first match, but I hope that this loss isn't a sign of things to come, which would make for a very painful season.

I'm convinced that:

-Angulo has some dirt on Quique that he is using to blackmail him into all that playing time.
-Albelda may have the same.


I was seriously hoping that Marchena would play in the defensive midfielder role instead of ALbelda this season, but my hopes were for not. Marchena owned the position last year. Also, why doesn't Quique try playing Gavilan in the centre of midfield if he is not sold on Viana? Sure he's cover for the oft injured Vicente, but if Silva can be flexible, why can't Gavilan? Of course such a comparison isn't entirely fair, but why not try?

Well, if you want to monitor it as an 'I told you so' in Carboni's favour, you can point to the fact Trezeguet scored 3 goals for Juve on their return to the top flight. Yes, Valencia could have had him for free, but stubborn Quique didn't want him. So, to conclude, for the opening weekend, I'd score it as Carboni 1, Quique 0.

There is no battle Carboni Quique.I want Valencia scoring goals and taking the 3 points from every match.I hope QQ will cope with the situation and take the 3 points form Almeria the next week.

This is not about battles. This is about competence, this is about the future of the club. The short term future has a big mortgage on him called Quique Sanchez Flores. He is not bad coaching (neither is good), but he is a bad chief, not using, or using in a wrong way, all the resources that the company offered him.

I don't know, but I reckon your boss would fire you if you pretend to use for working the old pentium I because you like it more, forgetting about the new and impressive laptop. He should use what he has and he doesn't. Why? Nobody knows, just him, but that's not good for his company.

Let's remember:
- 2 years ago Marchena and viana were the forgotten ones.

- Last year it happened again with Viana (the only playmaker we had!), it happened with Caneira (on loan for three years and we didn't have replacements for the defense ) and Del Horno.

- This year:
A) Even if Vicente's injuries should put him in the first page, Mata is not in the team. He preferred to move Silva to the wing for not to have Mata in the bench.
B) Real Madrid wanted Alexis for this year Helguera's replacement, but we were faster... who is at this moment the third central defender of the team? Helguera; Alexis is the fourth one.
C) Del Horno wasn't even taken to the stage, my god!, he is the first left defender in the Spanish National Team, isn't he good for being the second left defender of Valencia? At the moment, in a fucking friendly against Parma, Quique prefered to use Caneira (right footed and central defender) in his position.

If you add that we have some players who are specially needed in the team (Silva and Villa) and others that they have to play because of the supreme will of our couch (Cañizares, Angulo, Albelda), explain me how tired they will get at the end of the league (same as last year), what will be the form of our replacements when they will be needed if they didn't have any minute in real matches...

Yes,you are absolutely right.We have to win ,to take points,because Valencia is a club which have to be a champion!I have confidence in Quique ,but if he let me down this season ,my confidence will be exhausted.

Flores Tries To Explain Villarreal Thrashing Valencia coach Quique Sanchez Flores struggled to explain his team's poor showing, and eventually had to settle on the fact that David Villa and Joaquin Sanchez were sent off.

David Villa was sent off after two silly bookings, and Joaquin on a direct red, but Valencia looked at sea against their local rivals from the start.

It eventually ended a 3-0 home defeat, and Flores put it down to the sendings off.

"We had problems keeping the ball, but the contest ended when we lost our players," he said.

"However, the first goal was scored when we had all our players, so we must also look at what went wrong, and correct that. The rest does not matter, because we can do nothing to change the result," he said, refusing to criticize the referee.

"When things become difficult, we mustn't waste our energy on those in charge of the game, but channel it on the match and into doing our best."

"We came into this game looking to play some good football, but it is necessary to be honest, and handle ourselves better," he continued, suggesting very clearly that his players could have done better than getting themselves sent off. David Villa, in particular, was booked separately for dissent and a dive - both entirely avoidable.

"Of course we all want to start well, but what is more important is how we finish, and that is what the situation tells us to focus on."

next match we have no Joaquin neither Villa. If we lose I hope that'll be the right time to fire Quique. Though it's too early but we should connect this together with last season what we lost and how we lost. We got lots of players but they were either on the bench waiting for more than 1 year, or abandoned for the whole life...

And I'm still wondering where is Carboni now? I believe at least he'll never be another team's manager in LA league.

villa7_maravilla,

I'm not a 'Quiquista' but would probably lean towards being an anti-Quiquista. Actually no, I am an Anti-Quiquista, but I'm willing to give him a clean slate for this new season. I don't hate QSF, but I dislike the fact that he seems to put himself first before the club. He has a desire to play favourites when they're not in top form, he ignores players that he did not have a say in purchasing - Honestly, how much do you think players like Sunny, Mata, Hildebrand, and Alexis will enjoy their first year with Valencia when they will be given negligible chances to play?I also think he's not a very tactically astute coach. If I were to rank the coaches in the top flight in Spain, I think he wouldn't even rank in the top 8, but that could just be a matter of opinion.

That being said, I appreciate your input in this forum and am very glad to interact with Valencia fans from all over who also have differing opinions. Honestly, I like the fact that this site is a global one and that Valencia fans from every corner of the globe, if the globe can have corners, can discuss and share their fondness for Los Ches.

hoser,the thing i dont like in QQ is that we are playing too much in defence.Why should we play in defence when we have one of the best attacks in the world.We are playing very well against good teams,but against teams like Nastic,Sociedad and Racing,we have to attack more.And if QQ cant understand this he will leave at the edn.I'm not Quiquista ,neither Anti-Quiquista.I am only valencianista,just like you,and the whole forum .I know that we all want good Valencia team,and if we are playnig good football with QQ in charge i will be happy


Im glad that i have the opportunity to discuss everything about Valencia in the forum because in my country there are so much Valencia fans and im very happy that i am part of this forum

I'm very angry with the team, specially with Quique, Villa and Joaquin.

Quique had a good numer of players so that Silva plays as left winger. Gavilán was able to play instead him. Silva must play behind Villa. And Angulo as forward? What a joke!!! Where was Morientes?? This match has done many people don't like Quique as coach. I think we need other coach for a long time ago, he's not a good manager for the team.

And then... Villa sent off himself. I don't know what's happening with him. He's always trying his personal moving when he scored 25 goals during a season because of playing for the whole team. Referee was right sending off Villa. He lied a penalty, en this is yellow card. I don't like this kind of lyings, I like when in England a player lies penalty and suporters boo him.

Joaquín is other chase. What he said to referee is not enough to send off him with a red card. It was a great mistake from Pérez Lasa, one of worst referees ever... But the good thing is that Joaquín apologized to fans and supporters. Referees in Spain have a very low level, it's incredible. Some of them don't let to converse with players, like Pérez Lasa.

If i was coach Angulo won't have more than 1-2 starts in season,but it looks like he is a favourite of our coach.A great mistake-Moro on the bench and in is Angulo

About David Villa,when he was shown the first yellow card there was a clear foul against David ,which the fucking referee didnt see.Then Villa was angry and he started to search for penalty and Perez Lasa was waiting for this...he sent him off.But we all learn from our mistakes and i hope Villa will know that it is stupid and wont do it for a second time.About Joaquin,only the referee knows why he sent off Joaquin.For me the main reason for our lose was Perez Lasa.Yes we were not playing well ,but ,hey ,we can play terrible,but we wont lose 0-3 at Mestalla. NEVER,but the referee wanted Valencia to lose this night.